Lister CS story Is Here!
Meet David Edgington
inserted note: 07/06/2006, I would greatly appreciate your efforts to post a notice of the release of this book on forums and WebPages, we must support the efforts of those who have done so much for our old engine, slow speed community. you can link to this page as an introduction or link directly to stationaryenginebooks.
Thanks in advance!
George B.
David Edgington, a great resource for Lister Enthusiasts around the world.
In 1974 he started the UK magazine Stationary Engine and remained editor until 1990 when (with over 4000 monthly subscribers) it became too much work, he then handed it over to Kelsey Publishing who still produce it. For the last 12 years he has written 3 pages a month for Stationary Engine under the title Engine Torque which discusses anything to do with old engines. He is custodian of the Lister factory engine records and every day handles general worldwide enquiries on old Lister engines---and certain Petter engines as well. He has written 11 booklets and books on old engines and at present am working on The Lister CS Story covering the venerable CS diesel engine produced from 1929 until 1986. His book Stationary Engines for the Enthusiast published in 1981 is now in its sixth reprint, and his small book Old Stationary Engines (published by Shire in 1980) sold an amazing 32,500 copies. His latest book The Lister D Story covers the most popular of all Lister gasoline engines, every enthusiast in the UK has at some stage owned one. The Lister D type was designed by Arthur Freeman-Sanders who also designed the compression change-over valve patented in 1928 under patent number 332,097.
Place your order here > www.stationaryenginebooks.co.uk
Comments from George
As you might guess, I am in contact with people from around the world regarding slow speed, efficient, and reliable off grid power. David is an outstanding resource regarding the history of the original Lister engines, and it is a pleasure to read his books and articles on the subject. As mentioned above, David created ‘Stationary Engine’ and still writes a column for SE.
David’s Lister D Story 1926 -1964 is nicely done, and full of wonderful pictures and drawings that helps us understand the evolution of this prime mover, of great interest to me is the small and durable power plant, the book covers other popular uses for the power plant, and products.
Front Cover of David’s ‘Lister D Story’
And now for the big news! David has completed the writing the Lister CS story. I think that North America will be very interested in this work, and I personally want to be the first person in North America to own a copy! So, here’s my public notice I purchases the book, I know it will be well done, and full of information. If you wish to understand the Longevity of this design, This book will be of great value and interest.
I hope that DIYERS everywhere will join in and support David's effort to provide the book we have been waiting for!
George B.
09/16/06 update
There are folks that point out that little technical information makes it's way into books like the Lister CS story. In this case, it seems David's new book has plenty of interesting and useful information.
Here's an example of a conversation found in a forum where they are discussing 'balance'
Guys,
A dim little light popped on whilst I was perusing David Edgington's book,
trying to get to sleep after a too hard day at work. Mind is still racing and
can't seem to get it to idle down. If you don't have David's book, SHAME ON YOU!
It's a friggin' gold mine!
On page 38 David talks about flywheels. He says, "It is interesting, with this
range of engines, how several specific flywheels were fitted singly, meaning the
starting handle side was different from the opposite side, while others were
matched pairs."
Well that certainly makes this endeavor more challenging! :confused:
On the same page is a drawing of a flywheel from a 10/1 by looks of it; it's a
Stover with the kidney shaped holes. There is also a circular hole (David calls
it "spherical") that measures 3 11/16" diameter centered 7 1/16" from the center
of the shaft.
Now here's where it gets interesting: In the North East quarter of Page 39,
David continues,
"To the flywheel with 2-kidney shape holes ... was added a spherical [sic] hole
3 11/16 in diameter in order to assist with the balancing process of each
individual wheel which was balanced to within 2 ozs at a radius at a point taken
inside the rim. This was done by BOLTING A SPECIAL DUMMY TOOL (WEIGHING EXACTLY
3 LBS 2 OZS) TO THE EDGE OF THE SPHERICAL HOLE."
Recall above that when I bubble balanced the Beta engine's flywheels I found the
counterweights weighed:
Flywheel #1 949.3 g = 33.5 oz
Flywheel #2 1510.6 g = 53.2 oz
That's 2.09 lbs and 3.33 lbs. That #2 flywheel is pretty darn close to the
balance weight of the 10/1 engine David mentions above.
"Sure, Quinn," I can hear you saying, "but that's a 10/1, not a 6/1 and the
flywheels are different."
Aye, that be true. However the 10/1 and 6/1 appear to have the same piston, rod
and crankshaft, so the reciprocating weight is the same. It's only the rotating
weight (flywheels) that's different. And it's the reciprocating weight that
we're trying to balance out by going through all these gyrations. That and the
torque pulses.
One more quote from the very quotable Mr. Edgington.
"The spherical hole was usually positioned at the opposite side to the keyway at
BDC and provided the best compromise between reciprocating and rotating forces."
I think we're running this hare down. Of course, bubble balancing a real Lister
6/1 flywheel would give us the precise weight of the flywheel, but this will get
us close. So now I know/surmise/guess that of the two flywheels on the Beta 6/1,
it's more likely that #1 is light by 19.7 ozs, rather than #2 being heavy by
that amount.
Comments welcome.
Quinn
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David, it appears your book is far more useful than a display for the coffee table!
George