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What you should NOT expect from a Listeroid.

I've been thinking about the British Lister, we know this engine was in production all the way up to 1987, an incredible run for an engine that was designed so long ago. It is said that the reason they quit building it was because things changed in IRAN, and the market for the engine was altered enough to impact it's profitability.

Imagine what the British would be charging if they built this engine today!

02/2006 insert , This page has been here for a good long time.. I've added another link to this page so even the blind can find it.. . There are a few folks that will take no time to research anything before they make a purchase. They make a good deal of assumptions, and when they find their assumptions are wrong, everyone else is at fault. This behavior is often only the tip of the ice berg, as these same people often display no personal responsibility when it comes to critical issues such as safety. If they managed to stick their head into a running flywheel, it would surely be someone else's fault.

There are a number of posts you might find on the internet; and even some web sites, that would be humorous if they weren't so misleading. Those of us who have some experience under our belts know better, but some of the newbies can be prey..  

These engines are not for Sissies, and anyone expecting a show paint job should buy a Honda! A paint job always looks better in the picture, read on!

 Well, the fact is, they don't make British Listers anymore, and the folks that have originals are fond of them. 

For those of us that want to run the heck out of these engines, the only place we can turn is India, but there are some things we need to know.

These are work engines, the Indians don't hire artists to paint them. I would bet they don't even use a brush. The engine is fully assembled and then they rub paint over everything, even the nicely plated fittings on the high pressure fuel line. Yes! you get your monies worth in paint on a Listeroid, so expect to spend some time taking the paint off the stuff you don't want it on, and just be glad you didn't buy a car from the Indians.

 As for the metal castings, these are work engines, they are finished well enough for a work engine, but these things don't look like a Honda casting.

Another thing that you should expect, Indians might make the very worst gas tanks in the world. The sheet metal is thinner than we would like, and the gas caps come in three flavors. there's fair, poor, and bad, the fair one fits worse than anything you'd find on a quart paint thinner can. The brackets holding the tank on never fit quite right, and sometimes the valve at the bottom of the tank leaks and there's little you can do to stop it. One vendor of these engines uses a plastic valve on the gas tank... they probably got the idea from Briggs and Stratton and think we like it that way?

If you get a serviceable tank, great, but you should expect to do some rework in this area, and if you're not up to it, plan to pay someone to fit a quality gas tank. as I've mentioned elsewhere, I like to use plastic boat tanks when the vintage look is not important, and when it is, I have no problem finding tanks off discarded stuff at the salvage yard.

The main reason to buy an Indian Listeroid, is to get an engine block, cylinder, head, crank, flywheels, injection pump, cam, push rods, piston, rings, and all the other parts that make up the Lister CS clone. Once you've got these, you can create a show piece with a little work.

As mentioned elsewhere, if it takes the Standard Lister type parts, you'll probably be able to order parts for the next fifty years or possibly longer. Just make sure it takes Standard parts.

 

So I think.

George B.