See something you like? Email me at george(at)utterpower.com anytime.
Update for this page! As of 2/23, items were purged from this page, and my apologies for leaving up some that have been sold, my focus has been elsewhere. I have a number of items I need to clear from my shop.
For Sale: CF186 Diesel Engine
CF186 Diesel
I have two CF186E engines with the more desirable 2 bolt rockers, Electric Start, oil pumps, and horizontal shafts. New old stock, New in the box. $495 at my shop door. See this engine on eBay FOR $700.
George, can you educate us a little on the Shandong 2105A? In particular, you mentioned it was of “German origin.” I would love to know the original manufacturer, model, time frame, etc.
Thanks!
David
David,
I wish I had more info… but I don’t have any ‘facts’ about this engine, it was brought to my attention some years ago by an American doing some extensive travel in China. I believe this technology ended up in China about the same time as other German designs did. This is considered a serious industrial engine, in China.
It is very much like the well thought out German machines of the 1930s, very purposeful and no corners cut. I Really do beleive the Chinese have been loyal in reproducing what they were given. The quality of the chrome plating on caps and fittings is not up to German standards of the period, but what is today? The fit an finishes on the importan stuff looks good to me. There is a very nice English Manual for this engine, and it’s not a poor translation by some Chinese guy that spent a month learning english. It is a hint that this engine was exported to the west in some numbers.
I want to keep this engine, but I also want to reclaim the area where I store it. This is a gem, wish you lived closer, I’d invite you over for a look..
I’m not sure why I didn’t see these emails some years back, but they popped up today. There were several older designs that Americans found mainlanders using for boats and more. Due to the fact that there have been more modern and better-supported designs in China, a lot of the old stuff can not find a market, and I suggest the 2105 and others are little more than collectibles now.
hi . i just blew the fan out of my st 10 head and i need a replacement , anyideas were a guy might look for one??
Hi I’m Keith, I have a almost new metal fan, I bought from Georgia gen. It’s in a 12 kW, 42 mm shaft. I believe the 10 kW is the same size . Give me the diameter and I will see if it the same , if you are interested.
They are different, and the fan blades are used to affix nuts and washers for balancing. Georgia Generators was stocking ST heads, they might have some.
Hi George,Two things . Your contact form wouldn’t let me verify, so contacting you through this hopefully. Firstly, I have a lister 6/1 that was pulled down ages ago and is now ready for reassembling. My question is that when referring to one of the manuals I have. The crankshaft assembly lists as follows;
2 – spacer
2A – oil thrower
3 – main bearing
9 – felt ring seal
Now I cannot find any thing that resembles the oil thrower 2A in my parts. Am I missing something ? this part looks like a thin ring in the Plate #5 in the parts page. I have read that the cranshaft end float is made using gaskets against the crankcase. Can you help? Secondly do you still have the franz filter?
cheers
Phil
Paul, I’m not seeing a date in comment to me from where I respond, but it is VERY typical of the Indian to include the old standard manual with a much-updated engine. Tapered roller bearings in the singles are a great improvement over the old bushed bearings in my opinion. Fact is, I have never seen a bad Indian Tapered Roller Bearing. And that’s likely your issue, you likely have TRBs, not what you see in the manual.
Way late for Phil, but others should know that the Indians often tossed in a booklet for an engine far different than what they sold. An example might be an engine with TRBs, and the booklet covering the old original bushed engine design.
Can you tell me where to buy the 2nd bearing adapter for a generator head with J609b adaptation. I have a nice generator head that I would really like to use, but its taper shaft and I need to adapt it to straight shaft 2 bearing unit. I seen a post you made about this being done and said if there is interest it could be sold, but never gave contact information or a way to show interest. I actually have 2 of these gen heads in perfect condition that engines failed on both and due to them being diesel engine’s they are incredibly expensive to repair. both need engine blocks of the yanmar 12hp design….several thousand for new engines.
In that write up, I simply cut off the end of the engine’s crankshaft, and then sourced a bearing with the right ID. If you are to use a taper lock bushing, you really don’t need to cut a key way. There’s one bit of advice you need to hear, to make it a good Two bearing assembly you will engineer in the front mounting feet into the adapter that carries your new bearing. this is a simple job for a machinist. Make sure you keep that long threaded rod that holds the tapers together.
Hi George, is there any place that I can purchase a 8.25 6 or 8 groove pulley ? Thank you and have a great day , Keith Jahn , Sumpter , Oregon.
Can’t find one? someone needs to use the ford 3/4 ton front rotor to make one… the hub is the perfect donor part…
Georgia Generator was offering some pulleys, I have no idea what quality, or whether they still do offer them.
I am not a robot but cannot send an email on the above Blog. If you receive this please reply as I am in need of info.
here’s a reply. although less than timely.
So basically you are done with parts and modification parts for listeroids? Ahh, sorry to see you moving on to electric bicycles and crap like that.
One man’s crap is another man’s treasure. I have quite a few Listeroid parts, especially rebuild kits for the lister 6/1s. When our government removed the exemption for stationary engines, all activity surrounding these engines fell off significantly.
Hi George; I have purchased a number of items from and through you over the years. Do you still have any Lister overhaul kits? PS Is Joel Koch still ok. I only met him to purchase a 6/1 but was aware he is a good guy and a wealth of knowledge. Steve
There are a lot of instances where in the fifties and sixties when the Russians and Chinese were getting along with one another that the East Germans and Russians came and helped teach Chinese industrial companies to make things. As a consequence, we had Lucky Film which was set up by Agfa engineers to make Agfa chemistry photographic film, and the Feilo microphone plant which was set up by engineers from a big German microphone concern to make microphone products designed by Germans. This engine may be one of those.